Helm: BerBer CoA
Armor: Enigma
Belt: Arachnid�s
Gloves: Trang�s
Boots: Tri-Res Rares
Rings: Dual Ravens
Amulet: Highlord�s
Weapons: Grief + Beast
Switch: Most commonly Dual Doom.
Let's say I have it. Each item is NOT perf, but very good. But let's also say I can't afford inventory full of 3/20/20's etc. Let's say in my inventory I have only Anni and Torch. But every item I use is pretty decent (good but not perf grief, torch 19-19, etc). Here's the question:
Can I win anything with this setup?|||I think you're placing too much value on perfect gear - if the only people who pvp'd had perfect gear then no one would pvp - everyone would be busy getting their perfect gear.
For pvp I'd still load the inventory with charms, but whatever you have on hand should work, assuming you bother to keep 19 lifers and things like that. It's not until you go top tier and tourney style that you need to keep up with the jones.|||You can win everything.
But important is to be able to master your barb.Its not the same like playing fireball
Very lag intolerant char and pretty hard to play.|||Perfect gear is not necessary for a successful pvp char. As long as you have the general pub setup or close to it, you will do fine as long as you have some skill under your belt.
You can have the best, most expensive gear out there and still lose the majority of your duels because you simply have no dueling tactics.|||Quote:
According to Yuqing's guide, here's the public setup for a BvC:
Helm: BerBer CoA
Armor: Enigma
Belt: Arachnid�s
Gloves: Trang�s
Boots: Tri-Res Rares
Rings: Dual Ravens
Amulet: Highlord�s
Weapons: Grief + Beast
Switch: Most commonly Dual Doom.
Let's say I have it. Each item is NOT perf, but very good. But let's also say I can't afford inventory full of 3/20/20's etc. Let's say in my inventory I have only Anni and Torch. But every item I use is pretty decent (good but not perf grief, torch 19-19, etc). Here's the question:
Can I win anything with this setup?
as expensive as those items are; decent charms will cost about 3-4 times that.
it's an expensive build and it's not easy to play. very stylistic playstyle that's sorta hit and miss. I wouldn't build unless you can be sure you're able to resell gear or can drop that much wealth without batting an eye|||Quote:
But let's also say I can't afford inventory full of 3/20/20's etc. Let's say in my inventory I have only Anni and Torch. But every item I use is pretty decent (good but not perf grief, torch 19-19, etc). Here's the question:
Can I win anything with this setup?
not with an empty inventory you won't be doing any pub room pwnage.
with 37 x 16-20 life scs you'll have a decent crack at most opponents a BvC is strong against.
at the top end, the biggest differences come in the charmsets which are the most expensive part of any pvp build these days.
however, so long as your sensible about how you fill your inventory while still hunting for perfect charms, you'll have a serviceable character that you can certainly duel with. use as few FHR scs as possible, then load up on plain lifer scs or res/life or ar/life LCs and GCs.
solid skills and playstyle > perfect gear.
be warned, a BvC has a steep learning curve attached to it. you'll get pwnt early on regardless of how good the gear is.|||The complicity of a character doesn't scare me. The problem is I've heard the baba is the most expensive char and my actual question is is it so expensive to make it godly or is it expensive to make it work?
Because there are chars which can win with eni-worth gear but better gear will help them and there are chars who just can't (Mage?). I'm not afraid of barb being too hard for me to master, I'm afraid that even then I master it I won't be able to win anything without great inventory
Could you guys - I'm talking to the good BvC players here - just THROW AWAY your inventory except anni and torch, join a random pub game and win with 5-6 out of 7 people there? Of course my inventory will be a little bit better than "anni and torch", but also my GEAR won't be perfect so to make it easier in theory let's say I have almost perf gear (one setup vs all) and almost no inventory (while in real life I'll have something in between)|||Quote:
The complicity of a character doesn't scare me. The problem is I've heard the baba is the most expensive char and my actual question is is it so expensive to make it godly or is it expensive to make it work?
Because there are chars which can win with eni-worth gear but better gear will help them and there are chars who just can't (Mage?). I'm not afraid of barb being too hard for me to master, I'm afraid that even then I master it I won't be able to win anything without great inventory
Could you guys - I'm talking to the good BvC players here - just THROW AWAY your inventory except anni and torch, join a random pub game and win with 5-6 out of 7 people there? Of course my inventory will be a little bit better than "anni and torch", but also my GEAR won't be perfect so to make it easier in theory let's say I have almost perf gear (one setup vs all) and almost no inventory (while in real life I'll have something in between)
I'm not a bvc player, but you might be expecting a bit too much. If you plan on taking everyone at once ie 7vs you, unless you're in tune with the playstyle, you're going to eat it pretty badly.
A pub game conditions vary. You have to take gm/bm into consideration. Some people strictly TG, others run to town and NK. Being able to kill everyone in a game doesn't mean much if they're all naked. Some people pot reds/purples - etc etc...
But assuming you're in a pub that's actually gm, and instead of duels, lets say free for all - a player who knows what he's doing with a BvC can dominate. But then again, you also have to consider skill levels, as pubs aren't usually on the same level as organized duels. Additional charms aren't essential, they supplement.
All in all, as I said before, if perfect gear was essential, people would be too preoccupied with acquiring wealth/gear and only a select few (who probably spent real money on in game items) would be dueling.|||Just give it a try - my first bvc years ago started with a death clever and an oath BA and pretty bad charms. Filling the inventory with charms might take some time, but using max/ar/life grand charms is always an option, or just a mix of random charms really.
See if you like playing the barb, and if you do just slowly upgrade your charmset. If you have ar problems consider ditching ravens and highlords for angelics and get mana from charms while maintaining high ar. This should be a decent temporary solution. You do lose deadly strike but hit other chars with consistency.
While it's true that barbs require good charms to shine, you can have plenty of fun with a ghetto barb as well.
While trying to equip your barb consider ar/life charms - they are much cheaper than max/ar/life ones and do the job just fine.|||I dont know who would really use dual doomz's on switch. A BvC would use widowmaker hel on switch really. Its the guilded arrow that automatically shoots as a magic arrow that follows the opponent which makes dr a laugh for a BvC.
No comments:
Post a Comment