Friday, April 13, 2012

little help with my vita nec?

[:1]Hi,

I'm quite new with playing D2 online,so I would appreciate some help

I know there is a lot of guides out there,but to be honest,everyone says something different,not to mention vita/mb argues,so I've decided to use basic logic and make my own build.

Here is what I got so far:

lvl 95

Hoto ofc

Enigma dusk

spirit monarch 35 fcr

arach

perf treks

bloodfist (for +40 life)

mara 30

diadem +2 necro,20 fcr,5 dr,20 str,68 mana.. jahjah

bul kathos

fcr ring with life (32 only) and some res

torch 20/20

20/17 anni

9x PnB skiller + 40,

10x +20life sc with single res

cta flail 6/6/2 + rand spirit..

with this eq,i got 3696 life with bo (i think not much for vita),887 mana(enough for me),5370 spirit,5405 spear,125 fcr,more than 86 fhr,75@...

now another option i see (and i was told to use) is shako with jah,2x fcr rings (must have @ res and life,hard to find,expensive),some great amu with fcr (i got just venomous +3 PnB 10 fcr)..but the problem is that if i take down kathos and mara,thats -3 to BO (-1 with shako)..so from my point of view,first setup gives me more life(because of BO,bulkathos - i tried that) and I got problems with res. dmg stays,coz +3PnB is the same as mara + kathos

...and I'd have to use 20life @res scs (really expensive)

SO,as I told before,I'm quite noob = I don't know all the options and items..Is there anything,that could give me some life boost?exept getting better skillers ofc I can't spend much more right now,so please don't tell me to buy better diadem or some godly rings or whatever

also,I was told I need 50% dr,but i don't understand that at all (how to achive that with this eq)

If u have any sugestions,PLEASE help me

Thanks a lot |||Well, easiest thing to do is to cast Oak from your hoto.

50% dr is for the (mb) build using Stormshield, Verdungo's. So no achieving without loss of FCR. Just stay away from melee and block arrows with bone walls.|||Its a shame not to use more setups vs different chars on a vita necro.Since it has this possibility.A max block build hardly can stack some resistances , have a decent damage , reach the fhr breapoint.Not to mention it requires ultra expensive rares to be able no to lose too much life in the process.

All around

Coa (res , dr , 30 fhr , 2 sockets to play with)

Enigma ( pretty obvious)

Hoto (pretty obvious again)

Trangs ( you need the 20 fcr on gloves )

Verdungo (up to 15 dr , 10 fhr , up to 40 vitality)

Spirit monarch (no shield can compete with this , 2 skills , a few resists , mass mana , 55 fhr)

Aldurs boots ( 40 frw , fire res to make up for spirit , 50 boable life)

Now the tricky part

2 necro 20 fcr crafted amulet (stay away from mara's . its just not as good)

10 fcr ring ( to reach 125 fcr breakpoint)

one free ring slot - soj , wisp , dwarf (very important to be able to have this vs certain matchups )

125 fcr / 86 fhr , ability to stack resists , max dr , nice damage.

Stacking ( wizzy , kira's)

Necro vs necro / hammerdin setup

3 pb 20 fcr 2 sockets diadem (jah jah)

White wand

Bloodfists ( 40 life , 30 fhr , just wow )

Spirit monarch

Arachnid

Aldurs boots

Fcr ring

Soj

3 pb 100 life amulet

This allows u to have the most life and damage.

There are still many to talk about , but too lazy atm |||Quote:








Well, easiest thing to do is to cast Oak from your hoto.

50% dr is for the (mb) build using Stormshield, Verdungo's. So no achieving without loss of FCR. Just stay away from melee and block arrows with bone walls.




I use oak ofc..thought that was obvious...but thx|||For a starter vita nec, i think the best budget all round functional setup which isnt far from what you currently have is this(other than the one quickA suggested):

Weap: HOTO

Helm: Shako(ber)

Armor: Enigma

Belt: Verdungoes(15dr)

Gloves: Trang gloves

Ammy: 2 Necro/ 20fcr

Shield: Spirit (35fcr)

Ring 1: 10 fcr ring

Ring 2: SOJ/BK/Sorb ring

Boots: Treks

Inv: 1x 5fhr sc, rest skillers res/ life scs

you only need to get a 2/20 nec ammy and verdungoes.

This will net you 41dr, 125fcr and 86fhr and decent resists.

No you do not need 50dr on your nec. When you play a nec you must think evasion, not tanking hits. Whether you have 8dr or 50dr when you get ww-ed/ caught in a bunch of GAs/nadoed you are screwed the same. For the same reason, unless you make your necro for regular teampk use against zon teams, stay away from max block as well.

Well necs are frail in terms of life etc no matter what you do. The best that you can do is to make sure you have a full set of skill/life gcs and res/life scs, and make sure there are life mods on all rare items.

But even then, you are not made to take hits. Learn to keep bone armor up all the time and walk/ evade. And learn to kill them before they kill you. Learn not to rely on your life. You are not a smiter

Because of this same reason I personally I hate HOTO builds on necs, imo damage is king on necros. I prefer to keep my White wand on all builds |||i came into this thread because my pally sense tingled. someone mentioned a smiter. necs are an ez slam on smiter btw. =x|||Quote:








i came into this thread because my pally sense tingled. someone mentioned a smiter. smiters are an ez slam on nec btw. =x




fixed. lmao.|||i'm using this setup

COA with 2 shael

2 necro/20fcr amulet with 50 life

10 fcr/20 life/4str/all res 11 ring

soj

hoto

spirit 35 fcr

vendurgo 40/14

trek

trangoul's gloves

i have 125 fcr/186 fhr/ 3.5k life (with oak )

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i'm using this setup

COA with 2 shael

2 necro/20fcr amulet with 50 life

10 fcr/20 life/4str/all res 11 ring

soj

hoto

spirit 35 fcr

vendurgo 40/14

trek

trangoul's gloves

i have 125 fcr/186 fhr/ 3.5k life (with oak )






dun follow this setup.

you'll compromising too much to wear coa just to reach 186 fhr. 186 fhr is completely unnecessary. you're not supposed to tank. 186 fhr isn't going to help you since you drop in 2-3 hits (at a generous estimate).|||I think you're underestimating his 3.5K life and ~37 DR.

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