Thursday, April 12, 2012

PallyVsPally

[:1]Hi i need help with some Pally vs Pally tactics/gear. Im a level 84 smiter and I usually do pretty good vs other pallys but this time a level 59 smiter came in and completely kicked my *** .Its not that I didn't land any attacks but the attacks that hit did nothing. My gear atm is this.

Helm: Coa (with ber)

Weapon: Grief

Body: Enigma

Shield Exile

Boots:Gores

Gloves: Dracs

Ammy: Mara

Rings: Raven/BK

For charms I have 9x Combat Gc/Anni/3x FHR sc/the rest are 20life sc|||Inventory filled with 20 life sc's >>>>>>> 9 skillers.

Unless u get like 9 45 lifers but i doubt that.



I dont know bout Gores. get nice rares, trekkies or some nice shadow dancers for fhr and dext.

I think ur not hitting final ias breakpoint. using ba or phase blade? if ba get ias gloves. u got life tap from exile, nn draculs.

get coa ber ber. that extra ber means the world.

smite vs smite is about small edges. But if you lose to a 59 one you should either delete char or listen to me.

get 86 fhr breakpoint (must). without 86 fhr even lvl 30 smiters will wreck you.|||Ok I just got a charm that makes it so I hit the FHR breakpoint. I switched my gores for treks. Yes im using a pb, and i switched the dracs for another set of good gloves that add 20% IAS. Also is there someway I can add another socket to my COA because it only has one? Thanks for helping me btw. |||Quote:








Ok I just got a charm that makes it so I hit the FHR breakpoint. I switched my gores for treks. Yes im using a pb, and i switched the dracs for another set of good gloves that add 20% IAS. Also is there someway I can add another socket to my COA because it only has one? Thanks for helping me btw.




Whats the ias on the Grief?

Its been a while but if i remember correctly you need llike 34 minimum for last bp woth pb without extra ias?

So you can keep draculs, some extra chance for life tap, nice and bm. or get upped bloodfists. 20ias can be usefull however as a stack vs smiters that use slow.

What belt are you using? I assume a verdungos?

U can only get 2 socks coa if u trade for it. With 1 sock coa you lack dr. U should aim for 50.

did u max smite?

most important get inventory full of 20 lifers. life= win smiter vs smiter wise.

and if u own svs duels, you own the battlefield. Just watch out for hammerdins|||Quote:








Whats the ias on the Grief?

Its been a while but if i remember correctly you need llike 34 minimum for last bp woth pb without extra ias?




With fanaticism, pb grief hits the fastest smite attack speed without any additional ias, even if you roll 30 ias grief.


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most important get inventory full of 20 lifers. life= win smiter vs smiter wise.

and if u own svs duels, you own the battlefield. Just watch out for hammerdins




Smiter with pc sks destroys smiters with 20 lifers, the damage difference out weights the life difference easily.

Smiter is a bit of a underdog char anyways, fun to play, but not my top choice for serious duels.


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get 86 fhr breakpoint (must). without 86 fhr even lvl 30 smiters will wreck you.




86 fhr is not must on a smiter, as smite is uninterruptable attack.|||Plain combat skillers would never beat an inventory full of 20 lifers. Never ever.

I disagree on you on smiter being underground char. I regard smiters as top notch, categorie boners, bvc etc.

86 fhr is a must. You go duel with lower fhr for while and tell me how u like it.

I think I messed the 34 ias one with a berserker grief, u need 34 ias or so and 20 from items to get the bp.|||Quote:








Plain combat skillers would never beat an inventory full of 20 lifers. Never ever.




Sorry, I meant, well say 35+ life pc sks.


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I disagree on you on smiter being underground char. I regard smiters as top notch, categorie boners, bvc etc.




smiter is in disadvantage vs. the topnotch chars, you will lose to boners and hammerdins every time, druids and bvcs will give you really hard time.


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86 fhr is a must. You go duel with lower fhr for while and tell me how u like it.




My smiter doesn't even have the 48 fhr bp(when wearing exile) and I'm doing just fine. What you need the fhr for anyway? Charge will let you escape any stunlock, your attack is unblockable and uninterruptable.|||Honestly a Bvc should not give you any problems. Especcially with an Exile.

Necro's require skill but would not be considered a direct counter. The only direct counter the smiter has is the hammerdin. They are a true nightmare. Druids are do-able.

If you van get 9 35+ combat lifers GG to you. But it seems topic starter can't afford that (who can actually), so 20 lifers should be standard.

I need a second opinion on the fhr thing, Im sure it does matter.|||Quote:








Honestly a Bvc should not give you any problems. Especcially with an Exile.




I think you haven't dueled good bvcs. Good full str bugged bvcs are extremely hard to tele smite as they desynch massively with ww. They also have range advantage over you.


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Necro's require skill but would not be considered a direct counter.




Good smiter with oak charges can kill decent necromancers, but good necromancer will never lose a ft5 duel to a smiter.


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If you van get 9 35+ combat lifers GG to you. But it seems topic starter can't afford that (who can actually), so 20 lifers should be standard.




I'm a non ladder dueler and it seems most people there are able to afford 40+ lifers on theyr chars.|||There's also a non max block holy freeze smiter for s vs s but dunno if that's still viable ambid will know I'm sure

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