Hi, i cant really seem to get those classes. My charger has a edeath zerker,Um'ed hoz, shako with shael, perf ap fort,2x bk rings, treks,bloodfists,mara, and 2 bk rings. i also have 18/13 ptroch and 20/17 anni. But i cant seem to hit on those trappers. All they do is sit in their traps, and spam WoF, MB, and the shadow master to stun. And the master keeps mbing me with the stunlock, wich is annoying,and requires no skill whatsoever.I mean i could go bm and whip out 2x wisps, tgods,and shaeld blackhorns but they start *****ing as soon as i do and the duel be over. And i can never even get a hit on those wwsins for some reason they hit me but i cant hit them.Is there a cheap class that takes them out with ease, because my charger cant for some reason because that trap no skill is really annoying me.|||What build are you? From what I can tell, you are very, very immobile. I see very little rhyme or reason in the gear other than generic stuff. Maybe smiter?
At anyrate, campers I agree suck, but since you aren't teleporting, I think they're just keeping their distance and using LS. If it's a pub, they really should expect that someone will have absorb and have stated accordingly.
For WWsins, there is indeed a way to prevent the smite/zealer from hitting while getting hits themselves. They're WWing perpendicularly to you. To trip some up, if they don't know how to handle it, is to telstomp in their path and smite them. They'll die soon if they ww through you.
Unfortunately, there is no class that takes them out with ease. Barbs come close, but even that is far from fool proof.
EDIT: oh, a charger. Reading comprehension would help me ^^|||Quote:
Hi, i cant really seem to get those classes. My charger has a edeath zerker,Um'ed hoz, shako with shael, perf ap fort,2x bk rings, treks,bloodfists,mara, and 2 bk rings. i also have 18/13 ptroch and 20/17 anni. But i cant seem to hit on those trappers. All they do is sit in their traps, and spam WoF, MB, and the shadow master to stun. And the master keeps mbing me with the stunlock, wich is annoying,and requires no skill whatsoever.I mean i could go bm and whip out 2x wisps, tgods,and shaeld blackhorns but they start *****ing as soon as i do and the duel be over. And i can never even get a hit on those wwsins for some reason they hit me but i cant hit them.Is there a cheap class that takes them out with ease, because my charger cant for some reason because that trap no skill is really annoying me.
chargers should have less of a hard time vs trappers than most classes.
as a charger you have every skill in the world to get out of trap stun, charge out of stun, charge away/sidestep trap hits, wsg if you really get hardlocked.
if you think sitting in traps to kill a charger takes no skill, either you are just getting outplayed, or you are playing very badly yourself. try playing from a trapper's perspective and you will find chargers are more than difficult to keep in traps, and the only thing trappers can really do is chip away because you can't hardlock a charger unless the charger makes some very bad mistakes and lets himself get hardlocked. on the other hand a nice desynced charge will 2 hit most c/c trapper builds.
on a very high level of gameplay I agree that defensive trappers have the advantage, things kinda change at that level, but chargers really have it better than most classes vs trappers when you are playing casuals vs average players.
wwsins yeah, chargers will have a problem with that because they can not charge into whirl or they will get punished, so it makes it easier for wwsins to bait chargers. although smiters can put up a fair duel vs wwsins (still favor to wwsins imo)
if you want to counterpick classes, barb will take down wwsin, trappers will be difficult in gm (non oversorbing) no matter what because they are a really strong gm class.
however I think its more your lack of tactics that is causing the problem vs them. pallies fare fine vs trappers, learn trap timing, learn how to avoid hits, learn to charge out of stun early rather than getting hardlocked and regretting it later.
your build could use some improvement, Im not really a specialist in chargers but you might want to look up some guides. I don't think 1h death is the best of ideas, try a grief for 1h charge/smiting, or a 2h weapon if you want to go for a lot of damage with fort. also I would suggest trying out enigma/tgods for teleport, although you really should be able to desync charge through stun vs the majority of average trap players anyway.|||as i see, you using weapon/shield set up, get spirit instead of zakarum, it gives you 55% fhr. you not hitting them? get more ar, dual angelic with kira (kira provides cbf, while 2 angel should sort out your ar problem) and you ll hit them easily.
and when you chargin, you using vigor, right?|||Quote:
as i see, you using weapon/shield set up, get spirit instead of zakarum, it gives you 55% fhr. you not hitting them? get more ar, dual angelic with kira (kira provides cbf, while 2 angel should sort out your ar problem) and you ll hit them easily.
and when you chargin, you using vigor, right?
I doubt AR is an issue. Sins have very low defense, but I think it may be either a block issue on the opponent, or with WWsins, just avoiding.|||Charging into a Whirlwind is suicide. you'll have to either telesmite/telezeal or get lucky and catch 'em as they're exiting a whirl.
same applies for barbs as sins.|||Your problem is mainly one of location.
Where's CBF? Where's Highlord's? Where's Guillaume? Where's Gore Rider?
Where's Tgod's? Where are Wisps?|||*sigh*
there's always one person who'll come up with that oh, so original suggestion when confronted by any elemental user: pile on t3h ZORB!|||Quote:
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there's always one person who'll come up with that oh, so original suggestion when confronted by any elemental user: pile on t3h ZORB!
because they do not have a single idea how to play vs casters beside sorbing ( and when that fails, they call us hackers )|||one item of sorb/max res is gm.
if your opponents are allowed to wear one of those items, why can't he wear it?
that's like saying anyone who throws on a stormshield and gets max block vs a bvc is pathetic because they have no idea how to play against them without blocking 75% of their hits, and halving the damage of the 25% that do get through, essentially reducing their total damage to 12.5%.
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